What happens after Death...

What is Death?

Published on January 22, 2005 By brendangenius In Pure Technology

What happens when we die? The stupid or common answer is "nothing, your just dead". That answer annoys me all the time. You cannot be nothing. People find this concept very hard to grasp and about 90% of people i talk to about this doesnt understand me.

So 'Life' - your living it right now, how does it feel? - im going to ask you to think 'Deep' with me, dont think of the logics, but think almost sub conciously. 'Life' - you can feel it right now, not physically but mentaslly, you know that you exist, and you know that your real. You can 'Think' and you can 'know'.

When you die can you just stop 'knowing', 'thinking'? No, what does it feel like not to exist? What does it feel like not to be here? Yet you have to be somewhere, and you have to feel something,dead or alive? Some of you may be catching on now, and some are just confused and not understanding what im trying to say.

You can feel 'life' right now, but what does 'death' feel like, you have to feel something, you have to be somewhere. Think about it - go deep, forget about 'Physics' forget about 'Logic'.

Understand? - If no, then your not going deep enough.

Comments (Page 1)

AndyBaker

on Jan 22, 2005

Understand? - If no, then your not going deep enough

I agree. Science has concluded that energy cannot be destroyed; it will always exist in some form or another. Consciousness and self-awareness are definite forms of energy, yet they elude scientific weighing or measuring. As our subjective-spirit is the essence or heart of our being, it's logical to conclude that our experience of "life" continues even after death.

aeryck

on Jan 22, 2005

Link
Check out my chart at LAVIZIONE - I spent about 1 half yrs working on it. I read the entire New Testament, so as to not suck this out of my thumb. The article is at Messiah's Highway, there is a link at the bottom of the page....the article is buried inside this title - Expose to the Jehovah's Witnesses Part 2 - they believe mistakenly that one is annihilated at death. They got it from buggering around with the Greek Texts and sucking on that poisonous root out of Alexandria...enough waffle, try the cream incase they do not accurately reflect me in this message I am aeryck.joeuser.com (Presently reading a little about Plato and Aristotle and those heavy thinkers-background to a new article about authenticity in biblical origins...a heavy one...should keep me busy for about 5 years) by the way the chart will make a great print and wall poster, you will need to go to a colour digital printer, unless you have your own...ofcourse, how stupid, I mean I only know your ariticl and no you. Insane in the membrane \0/

UBoB

on Jan 23, 2005

1. Rigormortis
2. Initial decay
3. Putrefaction
4. Butyric fermentation
5. Dry decay

A buried body will develop a substance called gravewax (adipocere) from the parts that contain fat. (cheeks, breasts, abdomen, buttocks, etc.)

The so called "spirit" is nothing more than electric energy. Like all electricity, it eventually finds it's way to ground.

That's about it as far as I know. I'll add to this list if they find anything.

AndyBaker

on Jan 23, 2005

The so called "spirit" is nothing more than electric energy. Like all electricity, it eventually finds it's way to ground.

Can electricity experience life and appreciate intrinsic value and goodness? Can electricity feel pain, sorrow or joy? Is electricity aware of its environment and can it freely pursue truth and understanding? There's something more to the so-called spirit than electricity. As brendangenius said, it's something "deeper".

UBob,

Understand? - If no, then your not going deep enough

.

You seem to be thinking of the mechanisms of the physical brain, rather than the invisible substance of the spirit / consciousness, which is who you are.

brendangenius

on Jan 23, 2005

Hey this is deeper than i expected people to go, some very good answers and theory's I had never thought of before.

UBoB

on Jan 23, 2005

Of course not. The brain, powered by the electricity, accomplishes all this. The nearly 100 billion on/off switches called neurons, gather up and transmit electrochemical signals along a wire-like structure called an axon, these neurotransmitters start firing excitatory or inhibitory synapses, sending messages to the various sensory stations in the brain. It's very much like a computer, only way more complex.

Please understand that I only speak for what I believe. My collection of neurons is satisfied with this explanation.

I am happy for you that you feel there is something more mystical and deeper to all this, and I trully hope that you and others like you find the answers you are looking for.

Peace.

brendangenius

on Jan 23, 2005

UBoB- that is a very logical and interesting thought, yet - what is it like to be dead? - can you really feel nothing? - I dont believe in any religion, but I Certainly find it hard to believe that our sprit or Awareness of our surrounding dies with us, mayb eour enjoy is put back into the ground, or our energy - which would support the theory or belief or re-incarnation.

Im not trying to imply any theory, just trying to get answers, which are obviously not "you just die" - no Science or physics support that theory, please read my 'There is life on other planets' article to see what I mean, and why we cant trust physics, and how our brain works and defines our environment around us. Link

Cheers!

jrobinson

on Jan 23, 2005

What 'feels' are the nerves, what thinks and stores memories is the brain. How do you expect to continue feeling or thinking things when these fleshy parts of you have decayed? The reason people say that 'you' dont exist any more is because when your body has dissolved back to the atoms it consists of, theres nothing left that can feel or think or remember.

As for a spirit and whether it survives, I dont think so.. But Ill come back and tell you, if that happens to be the case, ok?

J.

Grey

on Jan 23, 2005

Im not so sure about that - yes physically you will decay, but the sensation of 'knowing' as 'Brendangenius' mentions above, is something more than just nerves and electrical signals, not so sure about spirits, but more of a 'sub-concious' being.

I read his other article as he siggested; That seems to link closely with this.

AndyBaker

on Jan 23, 2005

What 'feels' are the nerves, what thinks and stores memories is the brain. How do you expect to continue feeling or thinking things when these fleshy parts of you have decayed?

It’s not the brain that experiences subjective feelings, awareness and sensations etc. It’s consciousness. In my opinion, it would be narrow minded to claim that consciousness can only exist within a physical brain. The religion that I believe in (Christianity), doesn’t say that we will float around in a disembodied state in the hereafter. Rather, it says that we will be clothed in a spiritual “resurrected body”, which I believe is made of different ‘stuff’ from our physical bodies on earth. (Sorry to get un-scientific there, but hey, I'm a religionist!) In the words of St. Paul, "When buried, it is a physical body; when raised, it will be a spiritual body. ... There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; the beauty that belongs to heavenly bodies is different to the beauty that belongs to earthly bodies." (1 Corinthians 15.44; 15.40.).

I believe that in Heaven, we will retain our individuality and will see God, His Angels, and our loved ones.

island_gurl12

on Jan 24, 2005

Jesus said somewhere in the Bible (i'm real bad about quoting the Bible, sowwy

) that the deads are asleep, and that they know nothing. So i believe that when you die you dont go to heaven or hell. You just 'sleep' until judgement day. When you sleep you dont know what's happenning around you, you dream and stuff. But that's about it.

Heh, we'll never know till we actually die.

brendangenius

on Jan 24, 2005

When i recieve comments such as 'you die and rott' - alothough true, but i dont mean the physical state of the body, i mean the feeling of conciousness.

BrummyBoy

on Jan 25, 2005

i dont mean the physical state of the body, i mean the feeling of conciousness

That's the part of us which Hindus call the "spark of God"; Christians call "the soul" (made in the "image and likeness of God"), and Buddhists say "is God".

Just different labels for the same thing. We are spiritual beings.

It's Who You Really Are.

Myrrander

on Jan 25, 2005

That answer annoys me all the time. You cannot be nothing.

Granted, the atoms that make up your body will certainly never be "nothing." However, "consciousness," the result of the electro-chemical reactions in your brain and nervous system certainly ceases.

Perhaps you can understand it if I use a simple analogy. If you take a computer and hammer it to bits, the component parts certainly still exist in some form -- but the computer would no longer function.

AndyBaker

on Jan 25, 2005

Perhaps you can understand it if I use a simple analogy. If you take a computer and hammer it to bits, the component parts certainly still exist in some form -- but the computer would no longer function.

Myrrander, that's a good analogy. I think it would be a better analogy if computers had feelings and thoughts, and could experience life and make free choices. It’s a different ball game when we add a self-aware ‘subject’ which transcends inanimate matter.

It is true that from a scientific point of view, there’s no reason to posit “purpose” to consciousness at all. This is because science is unable to assign either meaning or non-meaning to the universe it explores. (If it does so, then it’s not science, but rather a personal faith system.)

Yet whatever we believe about the purpose or non-purpose of life, and about what happens after death, our belief necessarily exists within consciousness in the first place, so we should be careful that we don’t miss the wood for the trees.

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